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In favor of higher EA salaries

EA funders and employers should pay more

  • Your employees/grantees share your values
    • So much better to give your employee $10k, compared than an unaligned vendor $10k
    • Giving employees more money = taps into their local knowledge
    • With political giving, it’s actually just important that individuals have enough money to donate themselves
  • “Paying more” materializes better talent
    • If you want for-profit quality you should compete on for-profit axes
  • Churn is very expensive
    • Onboarding costs are high, context is scarce
    • You don’t want to lose people to sth as cheap as money
  • You should care about their runway (?)
    • Having good BATNAs and solid runway means that they do what’s most value-creating, rather than what pays the bills
    • Budget to explore is super important
  • “What about grift?” My thesis: paying people aligns their values to yours
    • I sure feel much really warm and fuzzy towards everyone who’s ever funded me

EAs should negotiate their salaries

  • Personal runway is important
    • Ludicrous that longtime EA employees end up worried about money and being able to pay the bills
  • Your ability to donate is important
    • “Is there some group that you would feel strongly about?”
      • The global poor? Chickens, shrimp? Future people? AIs?
      • Your employer and your employer’s donors do not have the same values as yours
      • So think of negotiation as a values trade
  • Negotiation is a muscle, a skill
    • Will need to negotiate with many other parties
  • Grounding your value
    • The amount you can negotiate for, informs you how valuable your work is
      • Capitalistic heuristic of “work wherever you can get paid the most” does something valuable for the world of putting talent where it is needed
    • Salaries in EA vs salaries in tech
  • Observation: EAs I know seem to not care very much about their personal salaries
    • Manifest: Rachel and Saul last year, vs Rach and David this year
    • (maybe: falls out of greater trust all around)
      • (next level argument: things like trust between professional connections is worth way more than $10k of salary)
  • Levels.fyi
    • (maybe good april fool’s joke)
      • reveals.fyi
      • reveal.fyi

Patio11 on Salary Negotiation

  • More on tactics, but some of the good thinking on this

Contra Joey on not paying people a lot

  • Imagine you’re buying a house, do you go to Craigslist and sort by lowest price?
    • (maybe too strawman, sorry)