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Fluid org boundaries: appendix

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I’ve seen early versions of this pattern play out among orgs I oversee.

  • Just Write: anyone can now modify the software, doesn’t need a dedicated engineer
  • Manifold: hired founding engineer and now CEO from among users. Many moderators who spend as much time on the site as staff.
  • Manifest: In 2026, neither lead organizer Winter or Carolanne had ever attended a Manifest. For the first time, tacit knowledge was passed on via Claude combing the past Notion notes and Airtable feedback forms.
  • Also Manifest: part-time structure allows for bidding for much better talent. also people move on after 3months. also volunteers grow into team leads grow into organizers.
  • Many great people want more than the standard all-consuming startup life, and now AI can make that feasible. Is anyone still grinding 996 in utopia? If not, then why are we practicing this now?

Maybe: you might receive micro units of equity rather than cash/USD. We currently use USD as a kind of imperfect settlement unit because arbitrary barter is hard, but with cheap intelligence all kinds of weird trades become more feasible. In some sense already, when an employee works at a startup in exchange for equity, they are swapping their own equity (aka life, time) for the startups’s.

  • question to explore: why does facebook pay a facebook SWE (40h/week) a bunch of money, but not a facebook user (10h/week)?
    • something about the facebook user’s contribution is much less valuable, from a supply/demand perspective
    • facebook users love sitting around and chatting with each other. lot of supply of that in the market
    • but: not that many people historically have the ability to maintain systems like facebook
  • hiring: trust:
    • don’t know that a person is a good fit, worth the money. want to vet. adverse selection. resumes are low-signal. interviews are expensive, also select for “good at interviewing”.
    • best signal of “can you do the job” is “doing the job” ⇒ work trials, or watching people do the job in other contexts
  • sourcing
    • not sure where to find the right humans?
    • but AI should make matching markets much more efficient
      • have your Claude apply for jobs, have their Claude interview your Claude to see if the fit is good. x1,000,000
  • communication overheads
    • small teams reduce communication costs
    • dunbar’s number, one person can only model so many others
    • already, internet & prosaic tech enables much larger/more profitable orgs, eg Google and Amazon
    • internal tech like Slack, Google Calendar, Notion/GDocs allow for much broader scale of communication
    • AI will probably go much farther — can simulate individual human
  • specialization within a human expert
    • more knowledge & skills accrues inside a single person over time
    • but: maybe this will change — the AIs/agent transcript can specialize, while the human remains generalist, going around learning stuff
      • humans remain:
        • better at few-shot learning
        • better at modeling other humans
  • costly
    • humans cost a bunch of money!
      • which serve as a major constraint on how large an org can grow
    • draw an economic boundary between a few extremely great people
      • equity compensation
      • but: leads to a more us vs them mentality?
    • maybe there will be much more kinds of work & participation which are less like “fulltime work”
    • question to explore: why does facebook pay a facebook SWE (40h/week) a bunch of money, but not a facebook user (10h/week)?
      • something about the facebook user’s contribution is much less valuable, from a supply/demand perspective
      • facebook users love sitting around and chatting with each other. lot of supply of that in the market
      • but: not that many people historically have the ability to maintain systems like facebook
    • orgs are paying for:
      • skillset, expertise
      • reliability
      • loyalty
      • secrets
  • Personal experiences
    • Onboarding a lot more people quickly now
    • Manifold: hired founding engineer and now CEO from among users. many moderators who spend as much time on the site as staff
    • Manifest: almost wholly new team ran Manifest 2026, a lot by using Claude across its database
    • Also Manifest: part-time structure allows for bidding for much better talent. also people move on after 3months.
    • Many great people want more than the standard all-consuming startup life
    • Just Write: anyone can now modify the software, doesn’t need a dedicated engineer
  • What might be possible now:
    • larger scope for what it means to be “in an org”. eg Manifold staff, but also moderators, volunteers
      • and compensated accordingly
    • weaker boundaries — more volunteers, work trials, part-time members
    • orgs become more like collectives, communes
    • tech startups vs governments
      • can AI lead to more new governments?
    • trust, legitimacy, coherence
      • (not sure that this can be passed on to AI actually)
  • why is it solved with AI? some guesses:
    • historically, onboarding & context sharing is super expensive, but now AI can get past a lot of it
      • example: Manifest. Winter & Carolanne just running Claude over the copious transcripts
    • lower cost of comms between people?
  • what is the equilibrium?
    • maybe: instead of being associated with a single org, much more flexible membership
      • ie people work 5 “jobs” each at 1-20h/week
      • ie people associate with orgs the way they associate with social media sites today
    • maybe: people go through jobs much faster
      • if transaction costs are low, if you can onboard and offboard faster, your median tenure at a job might change from 2 years to 2 months (or, 2 weeks)
    • maybe: orgs parcel out micro amounts of equity rather than cash
      • we use USD as an intermediate
    • maybe: vast superorgs nation-level (think Terra Ignota’s hives) glued together with weird AI support & governance
      • imagine X except the money feature was super well implemented, many people draw significant paychecks from their posts, there’s a taxation scheme & election for council & leader rather than just fully founder-controlled
  • code: justwrite site self-modification
    • organizations becoming more liquid, permissionless
    • feedback
      • users vs staff — now users can just make the change themselves
  • historical problem: trust with power (budget, hiring authority)

other unrelated-ish comments from Lydia

  • [ln] bifurcating humans? ai accelerating education vs getting left behind
    • not sure if Austin means just 10% of population, or 100% (if we do more to carry them together)
    • if 8b: conditioned on getting some things right. might be out of scope for the piece
  • [ac] lydia’s approach vs austin’s approach, r vs k
  • [ln] ai lets us do things faster — 20y vs 2y
    • people move faster
    • 1-day org
      • minifest — Lydia first exposure to Austin universe
      • you can join a lot of “1-day org”
      • dunbar number for orgs
  • [ln] not sure, if in this piece, do we expect more people to be like Austin?
    • also fine (and exciting) to just do a small case study
  • [ln] does Austin’s approach self-replicate better than other approaches?
    • memes
    • org culture
    • journalist: not self replicating fast enough — why might that
    • are my projects self replicating
      • 90/30 club — i’m from CMU & NYU
    • rate of self replication determines whether we see it
      • CG/EA/constellation modes of doing things
  • [ln] the way the world could be, vs how it is
    • but psyched to put down ways the world could be
    • (or, other people)
    • not yet a reproducible recipe cookbook for “how to do what Austin does”
      • what peter thiel did with 0 to 1
      • can use the thiel cookbook from 0 to 1
    • felt like PG’s essay
  • nuno: vassals, grantmakers are orgs
    • meta, google: food, healthcare, they provide for their people
    • more normal disposition from people is to want a provider to take care of everything
      • historically: family unit, to employer, more hierarchical and want one provider
      • self employed entreprenuerial thing
  • [ln]: accelerando, for institution building, compute rich world
    • might be like the main character: venture altruist, make other rich, give ideas away for free